tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post9077238799468585057..comments2023-10-28T04:45:48.353-04:00Comments on Between Living and Existing: Healthy food: choice versus instinctTiptoehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17388368645986593755noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-77972322315163287612009-04-07T11:23:00.000-04:002009-04-07T11:23:00.000-04:00I would also like to suggest a website with lots m...I would also like to suggest a website with lots more information about <A HREF="“www.lifeworkscommunity.com/programmes/Individual-Programmes/eating-disorders.asp”" REL="nofollow"> eating disorders </A> www.lifeworkscommunity.comLife Workshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07346262539766166927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-73946063924427289732009-03-12T19:03:00.000-04:002009-03-12T19:03:00.000-04:00just the other day, i was offered a white roll or ...just the other day, i was offered a white roll or a wheat. after a lengthy internal dialogue, i picked the white. you wouldn't believe how embarrassed i was to ask for it.<BR/><BR/>in general, i eat a combination of low cal, healthy and whatever i like. too often, i substitute sweets for meals. although i love vegetables so much, i might have broccoli and a brownie for lunch. i don't know if that's the choice of my ED or my taste buds.<BR/><BR/>they say that when left to their own devices, children choose a very healthy diet. but i think between all the processed foods, advertisements for Kool Aid and McDonald's, et.al, few people have the opportunity to develop intuitively healthy eating!I Hate to Weighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17241064340434705588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-262414534181041882009-03-12T00:26:00.000-04:002009-03-12T00:26:00.000-04:00Just want to jump on with a comment about bars.I l...Just want to jump on with a comment about bars.<BR/><BR/>I like bars when I hike and need the energy, but other than that, I have banned bars from my life. I never feel like they DO anything for me. Yes, I know that they have protein and carbs and nutrients and whatever, but they don't SATISFY me!Kristinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17208374967597840745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-28698352285345075412009-03-12T00:15:00.000-04:002009-03-12T00:15:00.000-04:00Lee, thanks for sharing your insights. I agree a ...Lee, thanks for sharing your insights. I agree a lot of ED is about learning to be flexible and allow ourselves all food items. Food is most definitely fuel, so it is an important component on our life.<BR/><BR/>I think your bar challenge is a good thing for you. Hopefully, it'll give you more ideas for food. I'm a bar person myself, but I needed to stop only eating them for breakfast, for I'm trying to eat other things instead. It is a hard since I do naturally want to reach for a Luna/clif bar, but I'm getting better with it. Much luck to you!Tiptoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388368645986593755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-81855060450425423132009-03-11T08:25:00.000-04:002009-03-11T08:25:00.000-04:00Oh, I can relate to this! For somebody who has tri...Oh, I can relate to this! For somebody who has tried their absolute HARDEST TO BE NORMAL, I can speak for this. When I am at my healthy weight (where i am now) I find myself more likely to eat treats, give myself things i want (snickers ice cream bars, just bought a box monday!) and still fit them within my meal plan. when i am with ED, aka underweight, i wil always choose the healthier version, since i associate the white bread with weight gain since it has lower fiber/protein, which will leave me hungrier, causing me to eat more. this of course is really not true, those in france only eat white floured products and they are less obese than americans even with aall our healthy alternatives. as ed recoveree-s, we need to learn to trust our bodies and recognize it is not what we eat but how much..and we also need to realize our bodies need A LOT of fuel!!!! SO much! As we live, i think its important to undo all the lies Ed tells us, be more flexible and allow ourselves all kinds of food, healthy and unhealthy, all in moderation. this is part of the "bar challenge" that i am partaking in...i am trying to cut back on bars since i eat them as desserts, which is F*cked up since there is protein and fiber in them wtf? not to mention they are expensive and i can eat other snacks in their place!Lee Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05270495518105630238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-58598067954753557592009-03-11T01:20:00.000-04:002009-03-11T01:20:00.000-04:00Everyone, thanks for the feedback. As always, lot...Everyone, thanks for the feedback. As always, lots of good points made.<BR/><BR/>Sarah, yes, knowledge can certainly be power, I agree. Knowing ourselves is important for recovery.<BR/><BR/>JEI, it is true that nutritionally dense foods can make you feel more nourished. Besides fiber, maybe this is another reason your Dietitian encourages more dense foods.<BR/><BR/>Kara, sorry that you got through this too. Guilt can be hard but I think if you can change the way we think about it, there'll be less guilt.<BR/><BR/>Kristina, you are right that I am making an issue out of it. I don't know, it just bothers me I guess. I think I still get hung up on the "shoulds."<BR/>I do agree with you that it certainly does depend on people's experiences.<BR/>Re: your lunch. I know people who have not had okra which is a "southern" thing.<BR/><BR/>Cammy, I agree with you that recovery is like learning a new language. I guess I want to get to a point where it doesn't feel so distressing to eat the alternative, simply because I want to. As you say, it does feel difficult to distinguish which thoughts are Ed or not. This is why I am afraid these things are ingrained at times. :sigh:<BR/>Thanks for the birthday wishes.<BR/><BR/>Reagan, yeah to more self-examination!Tiptoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388368645986593755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-52446946172516815492009-03-11T00:45:00.000-04:002009-03-11T00:45:00.000-04:00By the way, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! You are definitely so...By the way, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! <I>You</I> are definitely something to celebrate!Cammyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18181004571609998125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-42473897243908942572009-03-10T21:10:00.000-04:002009-03-10T21:10:00.000-04:00I'm so glad you posted about this. I do the exact ...I'm so glad you posted about this. I do the exact same thing, and I never thought about it in these terms. More self-examination, here I come... :)Reaganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01456378732640287979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-5071829111511719112009-03-10T19:44:00.000-04:002009-03-10T19:44:00.000-04:00It's hard to tell, because these choices become so...It's hard to tell, because these choices become so ingrained, "natural" or "normal" is hard to define. It's almost as if our diet is a language. You have one mode/language that is automatic and comfortable for you, and it's a struggle to use an alternate one without a ton of practice. I automatically speak English, and when I have to speak Spanish I bumble through it and make a general embarrasment of myself. Does that mean English is more "normal" than Spanish? For me, yes, but it all depends on who you are and what your history is. I guess recovery is like learning a new language, slowly becoming fluent in new behaviors. Maybe those include white bread when you feel like it, or white bread only in combination with specific toppings that go well with it, or no white bread because you just don't like it. I think both health nut and junk food choices can be equally normal or abnormal depending on the context and thoughts behind them.Cammyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18181004571609998125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-82130497181464921882009-03-10T16:43:00.000-04:002009-03-10T16:43:00.000-04:00Tiptoe,I don't think it's an issue unless you woul...Tiptoe,<BR/><BR/>I don't think it's an issue unless you would "rather" have the white rice or the white bread or whatever but you force yourself to opt for what you perceive to be healthier. And maybe you know that something with more nutrients ultimately WILL satisfy your hunger more.<BR/>Also, I think people have different food experiences and expectations. For instance, you expected that there would be whole wheat pasta because that is something you are accustomed to, but if people don't think about it or don't care, then it's a non-issue. I just had a randome lunch experience - Part of my lunch was sauteed kale, which I love, and none of these women (all well-educated, living in southern CA...) had eaten kale. I don't eat it because it's healthy but because it has great texture and flavor (Okay, I like that it's heatlhy, but that isn't the ONLY reason I eat it).<BR/>Interesting question though.Kristinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17208374967597840745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-21994211848387969422009-03-10T12:51:00.000-04:002009-03-10T12:51:00.000-04:00I totally understand this post. I almost always m...I totally understand this post. I almost always make the choice to eat the "healthier" more nutritional option. Sometimes though, I just really want a sandwich with white bread and sometimes I let myself have it. The problem? I usually feel guilty.Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02777608805308517582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-27036026190295342432009-03-10T11:59:00.000-04:002009-03-10T11:59:00.000-04:00I've never been big on caring about nutrients, but...I've never been big on caring about nutrients, but my nutritionist pushes me to have the more nutritionally dense foods (ie: leafy greens, whole wheat, unrefined sugars, etc). For me, whole wheat isn't a choice because I have IBS on top of everything else and I desperately need the fiber.Just Eat It!https://www.blogger.com/profile/18063645003673364407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-45285503307799075002009-03-10T09:21:00.000-04:002009-03-10T09:21:00.000-04:00Sometimes it definitely has to come down to choice...Sometimes it definitely has to come down to choice. When I was overweight, my instinct would go for unhealthy junk food, I was chemically addicted to it. I had to make a choice to eat healthier and rewire my relationship with food. And from that I lost weight, felt better, had more energy, and lost those cravings. I think it comes down to knowledge of ourselves and what our body needs in consideration of its wants as well. Knowledge is power especially when we make it work for ourselves.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17034980786297421545noreply@blogger.com