tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post7625277095023957815..comments2023-10-28T04:45:48.353-04:00Comments on Between Living and Existing: "In between"Tiptoehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17388368645986593755noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-87277831992142095112009-01-14T07:02:00.000-05:002009-01-14T07:02:00.000-05:00Kristina, thanks for the link. The piece does mak...Kristina, thanks for the link. The piece does make some interesting points. I've heard the theory that living is also dying. It's really profound, and I really like what he says at the end of his life--that everything would be ready anyway.<BR/><BR/>I think as he says, you really can use death to mystify life.Tiptoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388368645986593755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-10134427909694555282009-01-13T23:10:00.000-05:002009-01-13T23:10:00.000-05:00Tiptoe,I thought of this post when I read an opini...Tiptoe,<BR/><BR/>I thought of this post when I read an opinion piece in the NYT.<BR/>Here is the link - it doesn't exactly relate, but it may touch on some of the themes that the book does.<BR/>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/13/opinion/13brooks.html?_r=1&ref=opinionKristinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17208374967597840745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-49968876772896266542009-01-12T13:54:00.000-05:002009-01-12T13:54:00.000-05:00Thanks for sharing, everyone.Lola, whether your op...Thanks for sharing, everyone.<BR/><BR/>Lola, whether your opinion agrees with the professional viewpoint or not doesn't matter. Your recovery is your own. I think you're right in that confidence does play a large role in "recovered." <BR/><BR/>Kristina, strengthening your relationships and expanding on life experiences were obviously important for you to get where you are today. That's a big achievement in and of itself, because it is based on choice.<BR/><BR/>I'm very glad that you are in a good place all around and not in that in-between stage anymore. It makes sense that you may not want to be the extremes of either recovered or sick, but maybe it's as you've said before "just content."<BR/><BR/>Kim, yes, so many of us are really in that in between stage which is just sad.<BR/><BR/>GBML, you can get to the recovered place again. You're fighting your way now, and that's all you can do.Tiptoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388368645986593755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-73916879887020647222009-01-12T10:05:00.000-05:002009-01-12T10:05:00.000-05:00I believe there is a truly recovered state, becaus...I believe there is a truly recovered state, because I was there for 4 years. Now, one could argue that because I relapsed, I was never truly recovered, but I would disagree vehemently.<BR/><BR/>And then, I think of the damage that has been done by the previous stint with ed, and how that may be 'killing me' onthe inside yest I have no idea.<BR/><BR/>Sounds like a very good read.Wrapped up in Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18210700542140339831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-80470636857089533332009-01-11T12:06:00.000-05:002009-01-11T12:06:00.000-05:00Very interesting post. I really think that I've sp...Very interesting post. I really think that I've spent many years in this "in between" state -- not really alive or dead. It's sad. I also think that's just part of recovering...<BR/>On a sidenote, I'm also strangely fascinated by death (not in a depressing way... For me, it's kind of empowering to remember that life is short). If you indulge your interest in the morbid, check by "Stiff" by Mary Roach. It's interesting, and kind of funny in a way.Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12524913753671188764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-10722584193258870192009-01-11T10:46:00.000-05:002009-01-11T10:46:00.000-05:00Tiptoe,I lived in the "in between" state for YEARS...Tiptoe,<BR/><BR/>I lived in the "in between" state for YEARS, I believe. After one stint in the hospital, I was determined to never hit that point again. And for better or worse, I did manage to stay healthy "enough", the depression that clouded me for year lifted, and I gradually expanded my life's experience and strengthened my relationships with people. I think that because I *did* value certain aspects of my life, this made it much more possible for me to get to the point where I find myself now, which is a far better place than I've been in 20 years (or so). I hate to say that I don't want to think of myself or of my life in terms of "recovered" and/or "sick". Maybe that's the taboo of living with a mental illness, but, sort of like life and death, I see these as related rather than paths that bifurcate.<BR/>Thanks for the provocative post!<BR/>- KristinaKristinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17208374967597840745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4699361536242687629.post-90682644078601908522009-01-11T08:56:00.000-05:002009-01-11T08:56:00.000-05:00This rings so many bells tiptoe, and I do think th...This rings so many bells tiptoe, and I do think there is a large argument that you are in "recovery" forever even when you are "recovered", just like an alcoholic is an alcoholic forever even if they have abstained for years, or a diabetic is always a diabetic even if their condition is stable. But when to change from being in recovery to being recovered I think must be confidence in oneself. I'm going to choose when I feel ready to be "recovered" when the behaviours are gone, and then when I am ready to stop having to have "excuses" as such for being a bit odd around food. That's only make take on it, which is probably quite different to the professional view point.<BR/><BR/>Lola x<BR/><BR/>PS I'm fascinated by death too. It's another mental health sideeffect I think. If you face your death often enough, it's hard not to see death as being in the same context as life. It's everywhere, but life is everywhere to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com